<3 <3 <3 I think the funniest thing about this entire ... episode... is that it's basically a series of reblogs about reblogs that got a bit intense. (In my parlance of "sharing stuff and linking back and having conversations around")
Thanks for pointing those points (and for sharing and conversing about this in genera)! I've made some edits to the reblog post that hopefully clarify things.
Some responses to your points: > 1. Most of the people flipping the heck out in my comments section have used tumblr and understand how tumblr works. Myself included. That's why they're flipping the heck out. True. I think I was mostly responding to someone who was like "I don't get why you would want to tell OP that you reblogged their post", and I was like ".... because that's why people reblog on tumblr." But yeah, I can totally see how "just copy bits of the post and put it in your reblog" would make folks think "wait, even my private posts?!?"
> 2. The term "Reblog" has a meaning. People are associating that meaning with what it is on other sites. What you're trying to do on DW by using "reblog" to mean "link" is causing confusion and upset with users who have seen how reblogging works on tumblr and don't like it. I guess what trying to do is to capture the *intent* behind "reblog" as an action on tumblr, which roughly means "share", but is a rather overloaded word. Whereas I think a lot of people are reading it as either "reblog" as the reblogged post that has all of the original content replicated, or as "repost", which is a different thing on tumblr, but less so on DW.
> 3. Privacy controls are the most important part of this site for a lot of people. I get that's not how you personally use the site, but even hinting at the suggestion of "breaking flock"/reposting locked content is actually shocking to people who are interested in those privacy controls. [...] I very, very much think you don't mean it that way, but that's how it's coming off. Reposting large chunks of text without permission is going to net you a similar reaction. Mmm, I see now that part of my problem is that I'm writing this specifically with public posts in mind, because private posts are private and it didn't even cross my mind that people would want to reblog private posts. Whereas that's the first thing readers of my decontextualized post jumped to. (And yes, you're right that I just don't do privacy. Even though I've been on DW/LJ since 2001, all but probably 5 of my posts have been public.
> 4. The tumblr magic of zany reblog chains? Happens in comments here. But... how do you share that with followers? Do you just link to the comment thread directly? Can random people then jump onto the comment thread and add their own things? And does the OP then have to deal with all the comment notifs?! One of the things I enjoy about reblogging on tumblr is that I can choose when to check my Activity feed or my post notes, and choose to ignore people whose reblog add-on I don't particularly care for.
(Relatedly, I think reblogs mean very different things on tumblr depending on whether you're producing, consuming, or curating the content, and I don't think that nuance carries over when sharing a link on DW.)
5. I am sorry things got so heated last night. I had a knee jerk negative reaction, and posted publicly about it, and a lot of other people had the same. I really do not want to set up new users v. old as balls users, and I did that. And it sucked. SAME. <3 <3 <3 I'm sorry about the intensity, especially since much of it was due to terminology differences. I really just want a friendly place where comments flourish, privacy is respected, and a reading page of fun stuff.
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Date: 2019-01-08 08:14 pm (UTC)Thanks for pointing those points (and for sharing and conversing about this in genera)! I've made some edits to the reblog post that hopefully clarify things.
Some responses to your points:
> 1. Most of the people flipping the heck out in my comments section have used tumblr and understand how tumblr works. Myself included. That's why they're flipping the heck out.
True. I think I was mostly responding to someone who was like "I don't get why you would want to tell OP that you reblogged their post", and I was like ".... because that's why people reblog on tumblr."
But yeah, I can totally see how "just copy bits of the post and put it in your reblog" would make folks think "wait, even my private posts?!?"
> 2. The term "Reblog" has a meaning. People are associating that meaning with what it is on other sites. What you're trying to do on DW by using "reblog" to mean "link" is causing confusion and upset with users who have seen how reblogging works on tumblr and don't like it.
I guess what trying to do is to capture the *intent* behind "reblog" as an action on tumblr, which roughly means "share", but is a rather overloaded word. Whereas I think a lot of people are reading it as either "reblog" as the reblogged post that has all of the original content replicated, or as "repost", which is a different thing on tumblr, but less so on DW.
> 3. Privacy controls are the most important part of this site for a lot of people. I get that's not how you personally use the site, but even hinting at the suggestion of "breaking flock"/reposting locked content is actually shocking to people who are interested in those privacy controls. [...] I very, very much think you don't mean it that way, but that's how it's coming off. Reposting large chunks of text without permission is going to net you a similar reaction.
Mmm, I see now that part of my problem is that I'm writing this specifically with public posts in mind, because private posts are private and it didn't even cross my mind that people would want to reblog private posts. Whereas that's the first thing readers of my decontextualized post jumped to. (And yes, you're right that I just don't do privacy. Even though I've been on DW/LJ since 2001, all but probably 5 of my posts have been public.
> 4. The tumblr magic of zany reblog chains? Happens in comments here.
But... how do you share that with followers? Do you just link to the comment thread directly? Can random people then jump onto the comment thread and add their own things? And does the OP then have to deal with all the comment notifs?! One of the things I enjoy about reblogging on tumblr is that I can choose when to check my Activity feed or my post notes, and choose to ignore people whose reblog add-on I don't particularly care for.
(Relatedly, I think reblogs mean very different things on tumblr depending on whether you're producing, consuming, or curating the content, and I don't think that nuance carries over when sharing a link on DW.)
5. I am sorry things got so heated last night. I had a knee jerk negative reaction, and posted publicly about it, and a lot of other people had the same. I really do not want to set up new users v. old as balls users, and I did that. And it sucked.
SAME. <3 <3 <3 I'm sorry about the intensity, especially since much of it was due to terminology differences. I really just want a friendly place where comments flourish, privacy is respected, and a reading page of fun stuff.